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Does it Jibe with the Bible?

There are some pastors at the crossroads who have declared that they are not preaching Ellen G. White or any distinct teachings of Seventh-day Adventism.

Some pastors make their churches appear less like traditional Adventist churches by dimming the lights, having a band, changing worship times, and even preaching sermons focusing on Jesus and the gospel. While their communication is Christ-centered and gospel-focused, members are being bombarded by other forms of contradictory communication in your church. From Cradle Roll, Adult Sabbath School lesson, Adventist Youth Society, Pathfinders and guest speakers, your members receive the Adventist perspective of Scripture. When it’s time for someone to be baptized, they still must first go through the traditional teachings and agree with SDA doctrine. The tithes that their churches collect are still used to spread the Adventist gospel worldwide.

As you contemplate issues at the crossroad, take a step back. Look at the big picture.

The issue is not methodological. The issue is Seventh-day Adventist teachings don’t jibe with the Bible. This video provides some food for thought.

 

8 Comments

  1. What happened to respecting peoples choices? Please tell me what religion is reaching the whole Bible truth without adding there own interpretation of what it truly is? The word clearly states that not one of us is perfect all religions and people alike are flawed. The word also states we are not to judge, Only God is our judge and at the end of the day we all only have to answer to God who created all things.

    • Anonymous,

      I hear what you’re saying. However, that sounds like religious relativism to me. I agree that we should respect the individual choice, specifically within Christian orthodoxy. But the idea that one denomination (I think that’s what you may mean by “what religion is reaching/teaching the whole Bible truth”) is teaching the whole Bible truth is not the point. The gospel is the point not perfection. You speak of tolerance but was Paul tolerate of the Galatians and Colossians heresies? The problem (as I see it) is that we have let American tolerance and inclusivity translate into our Christianity..

      What’s really interesting though is that you never actually addressed the issues raised by the video. I’m curious if you’d be equally concerned if a Bible study for kids was mixed with the book of Mormon, Watchtower, or the Quran? Even if you claim that EGW is not authoritative (which you may) wouldn’t you want your kids to learn just the Bible? I’m just saying.

      The issue the video is addressing is if those children’s Bible studies are in fact Biblically based or filled with EGW teaching. Let’s discuss the facts. The fact is that those books are loaded with EGW teaching. If you disagree with the factual claim of the video say why. We’d have a more fruitful conversation if we didn’t try to divert attention away from the facts.

      Blessings

  2. when your outreach and ministry takes the form of a deliberate attack against others, somethings gone terribly wrong. This goes for anyone no matter what you believe.
    If you don’t agree with someone, move in a different direction and continue living your life
    Go share the gospel with people who aren’t in church

  3. GREAT VIDEO! The truth will make you free and will also set you free if one is tied up in Ellen G. White’s self glorification and brainwashed literal lies which continued throughout William Miller’s and Ellen G. White’s lives. I continually to inform SDA members and SDA Pastors that they are worshiping the Gospel plus Ellen G. White, which makes those that continue to be brainwashed by Ellen G. White’s inventive self glorification and her many lies such as telling the people of her day that she was a massager from God and that her epileptic sickness was her going into a vision that was cause by an epileptic seizer. The list of obnoxious and untrue and non-biblical stories and made up fiction that she put in her plagiarized books. Ellen G. White and her cohorts continued to tell folks that she was the author which they even discovered in her day and time and we have found in our research in this day and time to also be lies. The list of my research findings concerning Ellen G. White’s writings compared to the Bible truths. Ellen G. White was nothing more elegant than a false prophetess with aspirations to appear to be some sort of a prophetess when it has been proven in this day and time that this woman may be suffering all the plagues of the Bible plus she may also have had her name removed from the Book Of Life. Reference Revelation Chapter 22: 18 and 19. The SDA Church and its associated doctrine is not supported by the truths of the Bible in no shape or fashion actually many of us believe that the SDA church is really a brain washing cult with no hope. Ellen G. White even told her followers that they were not to question her authority or her writings. I am planning on writing a book which will present all my investigative findings stemming from 4 years of research and due-diligences. .

  4. Mr. Burns, the bible clearly states jugdment is for God it is not yours or anyone else’s place to do what you’re doing. The word is clear that no one is perfect that’s why we have grace and mercy. If the world was still perfect as it was from the beginning there would not have been the need for the death of Jesus on the cross for all our sins or are you not a sinner because the word saids we all have come short of the glory. Instead of spending your life proving adventism wrong why are you tellinh of His love for all people the speaks that there are sheep of other folds I believe that to mean people of all faiths, colors, every walk of life. Where is the love? Where is the Christlike example? Can you honestly this is how Jesus would be?

    • The SDA church is quick to call those that worship on Sunday that they have the mark of the beast. They are quick to say (SDA)they have the truth, that they are the remnant.., is that Christlike?
      Why when someone point out their mistakes it is not Christ like?
      The truth hurts… But it is still the truth. Once you get away from the cultic mentality of been a SDA you will realize what it is to be free and you will want everyone to know of the freedom Christ offer. That’s Christlike.

  5. Jim Carroll
    GREAT VIDEO! The truth will make you free and will also set you free if one is tied up in Ellen G. White’s self-glorification and brainwashed literal lies
    which continued throughout William Miller’s and Ellen G. White’s lives. I continually to inform SDA members and SDA Pastors that they are
    worshiping the Gospel plus Ellen G. White, which makes those that continue to be brainwashed by Ellen G. White’s inventive self-glorification
    and her many lies such as telling the people of her day that she was a massager from God and that her epileptic sickness was her going into a
    vision that was cause by an epileptic seizer.

    The list of obnoxious and untrue and non-biblical stories and made up fiction that she put in her plagiarized books. Ellen G. White and her cohorts
    continued to tell folks that she was the author which they even discovered in her day and
    time and we have found in our research in this day and time to also be lies.

    The list of my research findings concerning Ellen G. White’s writings compared to the Bible truths. Ellen G. White was nothing more elegant than a
    false prophetess with aspirations to appear to be some sort of a prophetess when it has been proven in this day and time that this woman may be
    suffering all the plagues of the Bible plus she may also have had her name removed from the Book Of Life. Reference Revelation Chapter 22: 18 and
    19. The SDA Church and its associated doctrine is not supported by the truths of the Bible in no shape or fashion actually many of us believe that the
    SDA church is really a brain washing cult with no hope. Ellen G. White even told her followers that they were not to question her authority or her
    writings.
    I am writing a book which will present all my investigative findings stemming from 4 years of research and many due-diligences. My research is
    strictly related to the arrogant so-called calculating prophet William Miller and the fiction writing self-glorifying Ellen G. White. In those days there were
    many in the William Miller and in the Ellen G. White camp that either didn’t know the Bible or didn’t care because they blindly picked and chose
    their own brand of doctrine. Case in point Matthews Chapters 24 and Chapter 25. Surely, had William Miller been aware of Matthew 24 and 25
    he would not have in plain sight make an attempt of prophetic calculation trying to prove the day and hour of Jesus’ return date. William Miller
    calculated prophesied that Jesus would return in 1843 and again he prophesied that Jesus would return in 1844 yet again his prophecy was bogus
    and false. Of course this made William Miller a false prophet twice and Lord knows how many other prophecies he missed. On his second missed
    prophecy in steps this Ellen G. White that saved the day because she made up a ridiculous claim that William Miller had been correct the second
    time but he had prophesied the wrong event. Wow! Ellen G. White covered up William Miller’s two false prophecies by saying that it was the
    wrong event. We all must understand that even it it was the wrong, William Miller was proven to be a false prophets as was Ellen G. White for
    thinking up such a foolish thing. No one even in her day believed Ellen G. White’s cover up but somehow all was forgiven and the SDA Church
    even with all its Satan’s baggage continued. This shows you Satan’s power and sneakiness by recruiting false prophets and good liars. All of these
    in this little group had notion after notion that they were something above others and that they could change the scriptures at will which Ellen G.
    White did in her many so-called self-authored books. This woman claimed over and over again that she was the author of many books, but by
    our research we discovered that she was lying all along because it was discovered that she pretty much plagiarized all the books and documents
    that she claimed to be her own writings. This false prophetess was discovered to be a prevalent plagiarizer on an ongoing basis. This little old
    women just would not own up to the fact that she was and did plagiarize nearly all her books. It has also been discovered that this little old lady
    even hired writers to write for her because she had problems putting sentences together and this was one of her problems all her life. But her
    being the author of over 50 books border on the ridiculous and this is why this little old woman plagiarized and hired others to write for her.
    These are facts and have been proven by research and due-diligences conducted by someone that had no ax to grind but was challenged by
    Other Seventh Day Adventist to do research on Ellen G. White and the SDA Doctrine. Little did those SDA’s know that challenged me that I
    would become an authority on their own church, William Miller, Ellen G. White, Ellen G. White’s Estate, the SDA Church and it’s doctrine.

    It’s interesting that so many SDA’s in the SDA church have never researched their own doctrine. They haven’t researched William Miller nor have
    only few members challenged Ellen G. White’s writings and compared them with the truth of the Bible. When I discovered that William Miller was
    so arrogant that he didn’t even believe Matthews or that he didn’t care. This man should have woke up after two large mistakes, one in 1843 and
    another in 1844 and yet a humongous lie concerning Ellen G. White’s lie concerning the cleansing of the sanctuary was the event and not the return
    of Christ.

    Wow! It is amazing how so many that are actually studying themselves out of Adventism and it only takes research and a comparison between
    Ellen G. White writings, the SDA doctrine and the Bible to discover that the good and faithful Bible doesn’t support the Seventh Day Adventist agenda
    Nor does it support the SDA Church or it’s associated doctrine.

    NOTE: God has blessed me in many ways and has directed me and assisted me in my discovery of the truth of the Bible compared to the lies of Ellen
    G. White, her cohorts and the Ellen G. White Estate. The list goes on and on.

    PLEASE GOOD PEOPLE OF THE SDA CHURCH – PLEASE COMPARE ELLEN G. WHITE WRITINGS WITH THE BIBLE — The bible doesn’t support Ellen G.
    White writings nor does it support your SDA doctrine.

    PLEASE DO YOUR INDEPENDENT RESEARCH!!!!!

    If you do the Lord will bless you because He will show you the truth and the truth will make you free!!!!!

    We love you guys we are just trying to save you from a fate worse than death and that means the breaking of Revelation 22: verses 18 and 19. Ellen G.
    White and many of her cohorts are now suffering all the plagues of the Bible plus they have had their names removed from the Book Of Life.

    Please don’t follow in Ellen G. White’s footsteps — An eternity is a long time to be wrong!!!!!!! Please check out and research your own doctrine!!!

    Your Church the SDA Church worship’s the Gospel plus Ellen G. White — Real and blessed Christians worship the Gospel!

    Let’s face it SDA you guys worship God and Ellen G. White’s arrogance and self-glorification.

    Jim Carroll

  6. I agree with all of what you say. I want to purchase your book when you write it

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